Saturday 19 May 2012

DEATH THREATS TRADUCED!!

----- Original Message -----
From: g87
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 3:08 AM
Subject: Fw: Death Threats Traduced!

To Chris Merritt
Legal Writer
The Australian

Dear Mr Merritt,
I send you copy of my letter to editor of The Australian below.
You may find interesting my earlier efforts re the Death Fraud matter; the links are below.
Marc Hendrickx of ABCWatch and Gerrard Henderson.








----- Original Message -----
From: g87
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 3:01 AM
Subject: Death Threats Traduced!


Death threats traduced!.......................................Please note next email for links

The Australian and blogger Simon Turnill have plainly confirmed that various scientists on the Gillard government gravy train had resorted to claiming death threats that never were.

The Australian 3 May, 12 May and 19 May.

I worked this out when this flummery was first floated in 2009 - 10 by leading scientists: it had to be fraudulent because manifestly nothing was reported to the police.

When I aired these views in 2010 on air with Peter Meagher 3AW temporary replacement for the then ailing Derryn Hinch: he abused me and promptly cut me off.
Meagher is a true believer and had a need believe warm and cuddly stories.

Clearly, if there was any Merritt -[sorry for punning the writer at The Oz] in these claims - any reasonable person would have reported the matter to the police.
Instead we had asinine retrospective games being played by the major players: head scientist Chubb The Australian 3 May and deputy head Will Steffen: http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2012/s3502194.htm

And there are many more links that do these scientists no credit.
Indeed I emailed my claims to dozens of these scientists sadly esconsed in the world of climate change study / teaching.
None have responded.

I have emailed the ACT police on May 16 and 18 requesting confirmation if any complaint - was ever lodged and if so - whether they saw fit to investigate it.
To date they have not responded; no doubt aware of the political implications. Which is sad because people guilty of fraud should be charged to demonstrate to all that police resources cannot be unilaterally abused for political purposes!

 I know of many cases of people charged with reporting / claiming non - extant crimes.
Or - plainly the obverse corollary is that someone should confirm that the matter was never reported - or was reported and the authorities deigned to not take it seriously. Which may be the likeliest of the trichotomies.

In a democratic society the public have a right to know that their interests are protected.

I herewith provide a link to much ancillary material.
You are welcome of course to publish anything here and / thus edit my letter as you wish.
A copy of this is being emailed to Chris Merritt - who is also free to publish whatever he likes.

Confidential: we are going overseas 9 am Monday morning for 4 weeks:  perhaps you may care to email me on geoffseidner@gmail.com

However it may be only responded to for  several days - or a week or so.

Note - this email and comments extraneous have been hurriedly prepared.
Somehow I do not think there are too many errors.

Geoff Seidner
13 Alston Grove
East St Kilda 3183
03 9525 9299
03 9525 9290
0417 275 606



Geoff Seidner
13 Alston Grove
East St Kilda 3183
03 9525 9299

Please note next email for links

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TO ACT POLICE: 18/5/12 Re 'Death - Threats'

Marc Hendrickx marchgeo@gmail.com

gerard.henderson@thesydneyinstitute.com.au

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Could not send to these people...SUBSEQUENTLY SENT TO THEM INDIVIDUALLY A DAY LATER!!!!!!

GS NOTE MADE ON SUNDAY 20 / 5 / 2012

GS
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Dear Chief Scientist, Ian Chubb

I have been reading much about the death threats to the climate change  scientists working under your charge in 2009 - 10 at the ANU. You were vice - chancellor at the time.
The Australian has published many items on this matter - particularly on May 3, May 11 and May 12.
The  article of May 3 quotes you as ''..last night admitted he did not have any recollection of reading the emails before relocating the university's researchers.'' I don't believe I did,'' Professor Chubb told The Australian.
I understand how you must have felt, professor. Much the same as the Managing Director Scott did to protect famale staff from the infamous 'cancer clusters' in the ABC's headquarters in QLD a few years ago.
It was all a nonsense - but the ABC boss also acted in the best interest of his staff - no matter how abstrucely obtuse it may have been. And turned out that way.
But he meant well. [I quote from Yes Minister]
[I wonder who resides in the building now?] But I digress.

The ABC tried to help you on Monday The World Today: Professor Tim Flannery now has Professor Will Steffen helping as the Governments other Climate Commissioner.
And Tim does need a lot of help - his predictions have had a bad habit of being inverted by events.
Sigh. It ain't easy being a Climate Commissioner. The infantile aliteration does not help.
However the ABC and Steffen tried so hard on Monday to support you: the listener was sadly left with the impression that Will won't will not  be able to sell the idea that there were death threats - without you having asked the police to investigate it.
Oh! You did ask the police - did you not?
I know what I would do if my people were threatened with a dramatic dimunition in their numbers!
It would surely be worse than a budget cut to the 850,000 people teaching climate ascience!?
And worse: under Abbott they could not be replaced with 'natural attrition' being the order of the new neocon nihilistic revolution!!

So we have to make sure that those flaky emails are taken seriously by the police.
We cannot afford a 'Fair Work' type deliberate time - wasting exercise like with the HSU / Craig Thompson, can we?
So I already wrote to the ACT police - am eagerly awaiting their response.
Can you give me some tips? There must be something you can add to my pleas that they investigate matters. 

I have taken the liberty of sending a copy of this email to as many climate scientists as I could find in a few minutes.
Surely - some of them received death threats too? Please ask them to communicate direct with me so I can look over their 'death - threat' events. We have to co ordinate terminological inexactitudes - no overlap in verbiage; please reinforce this!

 I have found a few links - some not so generous: please do not lower yourself to a level that will elicit threats to these WWII holocaust deniers.
Kindest Regards
Up the Revolution,
Geoff Seidner
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Death threats, really? | Herald Sun Miranda Devine Blog 

blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/mirandadevine/.../death_threats_really/
But blogger Simon Turnill, from Australian Climate Madness, smelled a rat and lodged a Freedom of Information request, which the ANU tried to block.


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Carbon price denounced as 'unrealistic' by expert


ONE of the nation's leading carbon-pricing experts has described as "unrealistic in the extreme" Treasury's budget forecast of a $29-a-tonne carbon price in 2015-16, and warned of a multi-billion-dollar risk to the budget and a failure of the scheme to change emissions behaviour if a floor price is not maintained.
Frank Jotzo, the deputy director of the Australian National University's Climate Change Institute, told The Australian an oversupply of credits in the UN's Clean Development Mechanism meant carbon prices would stay low and a more realistic estimate was $5.
This would mean that in 2015-16, the carbon price in Australia would fall to the $15 floor price when the carbon pricing scheme, which begins on July 1 with a $23-a-tonne fixed price, switches to a floating price three years later.
Dr Jotzo was a key adviser to the Garnaut climate change review. He presented a report on floor pricing to the multi-party climate change committee that negotiated the climate change scheme passed by parliament last year, and is a lead author on the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change's fifth assessment report. He said the likely cost to revenue could be about $3 billion if the carbon price was at the floor price in 2015-16 rather than the $29 predicted by Treasury.

His assessment of the Treasury price forecast was backed by Deutsche Bank analyst Tim Jordan, who said that, on current policies, it was unlikely that the carbon price would be $29 in 2015.
"In the global carbon market, offsets from developing countries are continuing to grow strongly, and there aren't many new sources of demand before 2015," Mr Jordan said. "The global carbon market looks oversupplied, and on that basis we'd expect the price to remain below the Australian price floor of $15."
Mr Jordan said Treasury tended to anchor its revenue estimates using market prices.

"In the case of other commodities, like coal or oil, there's a liquid forward market, so the forward prices are a good guide to market expectations," he said.
"But the carbon market is very illiquid out to 2015. That's why they used their earlier projection of $29."
The price forecasts echo research by Bloomberg New Energy Finance predicting the carbon price could be as low as $4 by 2020.
Wayne Swan's spokesman referred The Australian to Treasury's budget explanation of its reasons for maintaining the modelling it produced for the Clean Energy Future package that predicted $29 in 2015-16.
Treasury's explanation pointed to a high degree of volatility in carbon market prices in the four years to July last year and the possibility that the EU would consider policy options to increase the current low prices in the EU scheme.
Both Dr Jotzo and Bloomberg have warned that an increase in EU prices may not have any impact on the international price. This is because the European scheme is reaching its caps in the purchase of UN CDM units, which will decouple the scheme from the prevailing international price.
The Australian scheme allows 50 per cent of units to be imported from international markets, meaning the CDM price and the floor price will largely set the pricing in the domestic scheme.
Dr Jotzo said this showed the floor price in the carbon pricing scheme needed to be retained to preserve the integrity of the whole scheme.
Otherwise, the whole scheme would have minimal effect on investment decisions and therefore little impact on emissions levels.

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Media Watch eyes climate scientist death threat claims






  • From:The Australian  
  • May 12, 2012 12:00AM
    AFTER triggering a global news event with reports about death threats against climate scientists, the ABC and Fairfax Media are under investigation by Media Watch after a central plank supporting their reports was found to be non-existent.
  • Before the flaws in their reports were revealed, their versions of the truth had been picked up by Britain's The Guardian and the scientific journal Nature.
    The critical error in their reports, which has been revealed by The Australian, is that emails held by the Australian National University that were supposed to outline death threats against climate scientists have been independently assessed as containing no death threats.
    Those emails were made public on Tuesday after a long Freedom of Information campaign by blogger Simon Turnill.
    But when ABC radio chose to report on the affair yesterday, it did not reveal that the ABC had reported on June 5 last year that ANU climate scientists "have been targeted by death threats"

    Others who gave credence to the "death threats" story were Lateline presenter Tony Jones, who asked Chief Scientist Ian Chubb on June 22 last year whether he was worried that scientists were receiving death threats.
    "Oh, absolutely," Professor Chubb replied. "I mean, I think it's appalling."
    Media Watch executive producer Lin Buckfield said yesterday one of her program's researchers was examining reports on the affair that had been carried by The Australian, ABC news, Lateline andThe Canberra Times. "If through our inquiries we decide that an item is 

    warranted, we will proceed accordingly," she said.
    The Canberra Times published the first news of death threats against climate scientists in June last year. It said the problem was not confined to the ANU and that academics elsewhere were at risk.
    The credibility of the rest of The Canberra Times's allegations is yet to be tested. But the paper's reporting concerning death threats at ANU is in tatters, as are the associated reports by the ABC.
    The Australian has reported that 11 emails supposed to contain details of the "death threats" at ANU were independently examined by federal Privacy Commissioner Timothy Pilgrim as part of Mr Turnill's FOI campaign.
    Mr Pilgrim said they contain abuse but no death threats.
    "I have determined that 10 of the documents, in the form of emails, do not contain threats to kill or threats of harm. These documents contain abuse in the sense that they contain insulting and offensive language," Mr Pilgrim's ruling says.
    Of the one remaining email, Mr Pilgrim found: "In my view, the exchange as described in the email could be regarded as intimidating and at its highest perhaps alluding to a threat."
    When ABC radio reported on the contents of those emails yesterday it focused on the abuse -- not the fact that they provide documentary evidence that the ABC produced flawed reports that have not been corrected.

    Geoff Seidner
    13 Alston Grove
    East St Kilda 3183
    03 9525 9299





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